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Sync 3 Map Updates Issue which is driving me round the bend.

15K views 19 replies 9 participants last post by  Stuart264  
#1 ·
Does anyone have any clue how to get the maps update to actually install, I have tried it multiple times, followed the instructions to the letter exFAT formatted (not quick) unzipped the zip archive directly to the flash drive(s) (tried 3 so far) with 7zip & WinZip. and no matter how long I wait nothing happens, the only bit further I got was downloading the utility to generate the .xml file and uploading it to the Ford servers (twice) it still says that the same update is needed.

Contacted Ford about this thinking it may be their system showing the wrong update (Screen says Version F7 is installed, Sync 3 Software Version 3.0 Build 19205) the email about I received back just asked for piles of information about the car while not offering a solution. I have attached the .xml file that it generated with the test utility (renamed to .txt with the VIN number redacted) in the hope that someone can spot something I haven't spotted,

Apart from there does not appear to be a lot of free space on the car's drive as I noticed in the logs the /fs/images/ section is showing only 15GB available and the first map upgrade file JR3T-14G421-BF.tar.gz is larger than than that, though I have been into the /sh script in the HB5T-14G386-TJB.tar.gz file which is the first thing the autoinstall.lst file calls which is essentially a clean-up script for old images and .tar.gz files and even though I have done a soft reset and a master reset I am starting to lean towards garbage / corrupted files in the /fs/images/ partition that the script isn't deleting. It would be helpful if someone knows how to totally reset the Sync 3 to factory defaults so I can try that.

Can I also ask if someone who has managed to work could advise if it has to be a SanDisk flash drive, mine are good quality 100% genuine flash drives just not SanDisk and also if the Unzip program has made a difference?

Apologies for the huge amount of detail and technical information, I have been at this a long time and eliminated most of the obvious things that could be causing this.
 
#5 ·
Thanks @balders

So 3.0 19205 is quite old now, the latest version is currently at 3.4 20136 officially but you won't get that due to the fact the file partition was changed between 3.0 & 3.3.

That being said, there is a way to get the latest version by using an alternative program. There are a lot of people that don't want to go down this route as it's not supported by Ford, even though it uses genuine files from the Ford servers.

If you're interested, send me a PM.
 
#6 ·
I assume you have checked the contents of the USB drive before you put it in the car. Should be 2 files and one folder containing the updates. More info here in the FAQ section:

SYNC_3_USB-Update-Guide.pdf (ford.co.uk)

Also the version of Sync 3 you have is the latest version - it was released in 2019

Cars from 2019 had version 3.2 or 3.3 originally with the new APIM hardware as mentioned by @andspenka that can be updated to 3.4

Map updates can be done to both versions, but some of the downloads occasionally come without the DONTINDEX.MSA file from the Ford servers. Although there is nothing in that file it stops the Sync3 system indexing the drive and speeds up the initial phase. If you add it (If missing) it should get to the 'updating system' message quicker. Once that happens sit back and relax for an hour or so and then after a key cycle another hour or so to complete
 
#7 ·
So far I've performed 3 SYNC updates and 2 maps updates, have hit all sorts of problems but managed to complete all updates succesfully. So yes, it's not a 100% bulletproof process, it can get a bit tricky, but it does work in the end. Even performed a (small) SYNC update OTA, so that works as well ;)

Make sure USB flash is a decent one (doesn't need to be a specific brand, type or even speed, as long as it's large enough), format it appropriately (doesn't need to be empty, I've done a couple of updates with my carry-it-with-me-all-purpose USB stick), make sure you unzip the file correctly, verify the contents, get in the car, plug it in the driver's USB and go for a drive. It might take up to 10 minutes to begin or it might start right away, had both happen to me as well. SYNC updates finish in one go, map updates require a key-cycle in the middle of the process. Afterwards, SYNC updates create the xml file which you need to upload to the Ford server, map updates (usually) don't, so you need to perfrom a Scan for Updates from within SYNC to let the Ford server know you updated (or you can use the specific tool found on the Ford site).
 
#9 ·
Well it's finally running on the new SanDisk I bought, and I am down to 3 things as to why, firstly the brand of the flash drive which shouldn't really make a difference, secondly the format of the flash drive being "native" exFAT 128k blocks which I plan to test with another flash drive, or finally that the doors were locked which I normally don't do
 
#13 ·
Well its finally updated :cool: though when I got back in the house, I did a compare of the SanDisk flash drive that worked and the Adata drive that didn't and the only difference that I could find was the Adata drive had a GPT partition table and the SanDisk had a MBR partition table. Anyone who wants to check which table the drives they tried should reference this Link
Now I am running a test having converted the Adata drive I was using to MBR partition table (Windows Instructions on how to do this here) and putting the update files on it to see if its recognised and I will try it next time I am in the car.
If anyone that's had issues in the past with USB drives @The Ace mentioned issues with different drives and wants to test their drives to see what type of partition table they have and posting back if they worked or not it would be helpful for anyone else (SanDisk drives come MBR partition table as standard, I asked their live help)

Just in case anyone non-technical reads this post, If you follow the Windows Instructions I posted, do not use DiskPart unless your 110% sure you know what your doing (and then still don't do it) its way too easy to select the wrong drive and Bork your PC for which I am not responsible.

Partition editors will do the same operation (Windows Key + X and select Disk Management) however I used a professional grade partition editor to do my USB drive and the free ones that I know of don't have this kind of functionality apart from Gparted Live which involves creating and booting from either a cd or flash drive
 
#17 ·
I only ever buy sandisk or kingston anyway. Kingston works ok on sync 2. I have never heard of Adata.
 
#18 ·
Guys, it's rarely (if ever) a matter of type or manufacturer, most decent brands will work just fine, as long as they are genuine and not counterfeits (I've seen my share of bogus "Samsung" sticks and memory cards). Sandisk, Kingston, Samsung, AData, Verbatim, Intenso, these are all perfectly legitimate brands to buy and use their USB sticks/cards/drives.
 
#20 ·
@Gregs24 You called Ford's response right, "the sync3 team see no reason to update the instruction at this time" because according to them the format in windows sets the partition table to MBR (it doesn't) messaged them back pointing out that the answer is BS and outlined the tech reasons why including that MBR tables are now described by Microsoft as "legacy".