The Powershift isn't the best of gearboxes, you want a proper transmission shop who are experienced in repairing them.

Ford will just farm it out and charge you a fortune imho.

 

So you think it is def the gear box?

any suggestions for a transmission shop?

 

Did the engine stop or just lack of drive?, what mileage?.

Ideally you want to pull the fault codes. You can do that yourself with FORScan and a £20 ELM.

Not many garages will work on the Powershift.

 

sounds like a limp mode scenario, definately get codes checked as if may be caused by another failure to protect engine

 

Have had same on 2014 Titanium Powershift Diesel Auto - after much concerns and checking turns out it is a common problem on both older and newer versions of DSG gearbox
They have 2 electro solenoids that operate dual clutch and they can get dirty or fail completely - get RAC out to do ODBC error code check
AA did mine and came out with P076600 - Solenoid Shift Value D - Component remains closed
Best case £790+ to flush the gearbox oil and replace with new filter
Worst case £3000+ to remove gearbox and refit new solenoid
All this on a car I will have to sell soon because of ULEZ expansion in London

 

This was my P0766. Solenoid was fine, clutch damper not so much..

 

Yes - Keith
Ford were using cheaper ABS plastic shims for the clutch and they tend to fail after 75,000 miles
Exact same clutch array is on Volvo XC60 and have 150,000 life expectancy
Maybe a forum query to Ford Quality control - as issue appears to be fixed under warranty outside of UK as a recall

 

Yes - Keith
Ford were using cheaper ABS plastic shims for the clutch and they tend to fail after 75,000 miles
Exact same clutch array is on Volvo XC60 and have 150,000 life expectancy
Maybe a forum query to Ford Quality control - as issue appears to be fixed under warranty outside of UK as a recall

XC60 never had the MPS6 iirc and in Volvo circles the MPS6 (which is the 6DCT450 Powershift) is as infamous as it is in th Ford camp.

Ford bought Volvo in 1999 so funnily enough when Ford released their Powershift in 2008 some Volvos had it fitted.

None of the D5s had Powershift because it was too fragile.

 

Ours scraped though to 65,000 before total loss of drive.

The Volvo MPS6 is an identical unit made in same factory bar firmware iirc so they did well to hit 150,000 miles.

I ended up doing a 2017 Powershift conversion to ours, wouldn't fancy doing another one but at least it's now got rid of the joke of a clutch damper and now has a proper external DMF.

 

Can we calculate how many people have been affected by the gearbox problems? Then at least we have some backup data to go to Ford QC team.

 

Hi Oldgraymare
Seems like this is an issue with clutches rather than gearbox in Powershift models
I noticed on US forums and Australia that Ford have been replacing these under a recall so there's definitely a problem
Had to have a specialist gearbox shop replace both clutches on mine at nearly £3k including new flywheel
Have since sold car so will be leaving forum soon
Best of luck getting this sorted
Les

 

USA never got the 6DCT450 that is in our Kugas, their lawsuit was against the 6DCT250 iirc which is even more of a mess (dry clutches in an automatic, you could make it up..).

There are at least 2 transmissions called "Powershift", the 6DCT450 wet clutch and the 6DCT250 dry clutch. The number denotes maximum torque in NM.

Ford don't care about the early geabox failures, they should have fixed them FOC imho because the design was that bad.

I believe the later "good" transmission is referred to as the 6DCT451, but I've rarely seen that mentioned.

 

Hi Keithmac
FYI the clutch repair I had done was on the later 451 gearbox - so I don't think they are any better
Clutch had self-destructed due to cheap plastic shims as per pictures shown earlier in this feed
What comes to mind is Planned Oscellesance - crap materials used in production designed to fail
Les C

 

What year was it Les, what engine 163 or 180?.

 

Hi Keithmac

Was 2014 with 2017 Powershift Conversion
Engine was 180

Les C

 

That was my picture and that was definitely a 6DCT450.

The joy!. this was my build thread.

There is no room in the later 451 gearbox for the plastic mess, have you got any pictures of your 451 clutch pack?.

 

That was my picture and that was definitely a 6DCT450.

The joy!. this was my build thread.

There is no room in the later 451 gearbox for the plastic mess, have you got any pictures of your 451 clutch pack?.

Hi Keithmac

Unfortunately no pictures- I have since sold the car - albeit with a trading standards issue over ULEZ compliance

From memory the plastic shims were definitely broken in there - 2 springs had wedged against flywheel and caused a 3mm deep gouge meaning a new one

From my motorsport days I sourced a lighter competition flywheel and clutches before I sold car

Sorry can't be more helpful

Les C

 

The issue in Australia was with the Ford 6DTC250 gearbox with the dry clutch.
This was fitted to the Focus.

 

Hi I had the same thing happen to me transmission limited sign came up while driving on motorway took car to ford yesterday for its service and problem picked car up they told me there was a code fault showing and it was fuel trim fault, injector related car has to be in garage for 2-3days has they have to do a leak off test were everything has to be disconnected have know idea what that has to do with transmission limited well they are the experts for ford cars will keep you posted over the outcome .

 

sounds like the DM flywheel went bang with Les car Keith I've seen a few do this on different cars mind.