So you also need to consider cost as dedicated charger isn't cheap and you'll need to decide if you'll charge enough at home. Using a 'granny' charger might be an issue if you're trying to use cheap over night rate as its not unusual for these rates being limited to 4hrs.

Used the granny charger for a while and didn't have an issue with heat etc.

 

dedicated charger isn't cheap

Used the granny charger for a while and didn't have an issue with heat etc.

Aye - I'm assuming around a grand installed!

Good news on the granny cable. My initial plan is to simply put a waterproof socket on the outside of the garage and take power from there. It's a 30a supply so should be fine.

 

Why do you call it a granny cable?

 

No idea, seems to just become the term. Might be because it's so slooow.

 

Because the Internet does

 

I think it's because it's because it's the cable you use to top ipwhen you visit your granny (to make sure you get home again in a pure EV)

 

when I tapped my sparky up about a dedicated box, he talked me out of it simply by saying; if you’re charging overnight, it’ll charge to full via the standard 13amp cable, just as it would via a dedicated wall box.

simple as that, a grand saved.

I have a dedicated 13amp charger plugged in at all times,popping out under the garage door. It gives the effect of a wallbox, without being a wall box.

not only that, the Kuga doesn’t have/include/support fast charging.

 

Cheers - it does seem to me like the "don't use it all the time" advice can be ignored.

 

Used "Grannies" charger for 2 years, no problem and no overheating plug. Use 10 metre 16A rated extension lead with the socket and the control block in a drybox.

No probs at all ...... pzzziz ⚡🥶 🤣

 

I don’t have the Kuga you guys have but if I did I I’d have all the leads then you have all options available for which is your preferred charge, a blitz of a nice trickle charge.

 

Our 13A charger is wall mounted (there is a hole on the back) attached to a dedicated outdoor socket. It has been in use pretty much every day in every weather for 2 years. The socket doesn't get hot and even if it did the charger monitors the plug temperature and will shut down if too hot.

 

We got a type 2 charger installed in March 2022 just before the government subsidy ended - had the car on order, but only took delivery in December! I took the approach that I'll end up with a full EV at some point in the next 3 to 5 years, so took advantage of extra money off, slightly faster charging in the meantime and slightly more convenient too.

 

Zappi fitted here - on the basis that my cheaper EV tariff is only 4 hours so wouldnt give use the full charge we need for the 30 mile daily commute my better half will be doing if we used the supplied slower charger. Also as I imagine we'll get an EV at some point and have "spare" electric from our solar panels (well should have spare for at least 8 months of the year).

 

We got a type 2 charger installed in March 2022 just before the government subsidy ended - had the car on order, but only took delivery in December! I took the approach that I'll end up with a full EV at some point in the next 3 to 5 years, so took advantage of extra money off, slightly faster charging in the meantime and slightly more convenient too.

This is also my thinking, at some point in the future we will only have the EV option. That one grand outlay may not seem so bad then. I have an EV box and the faster charge over a mains connection is my preference

 

If you value/need faster charging then a wall box is the way to go.

If you have time to charge then a 13A socket is the way to go.
You can have a proper external 13A socket installed or an extension lead as long as the cable is kept as short as possible and the cable is good quality and ideally 2.5mm.

I have used a 13A socket for two years without any problems.
Yes plug feels a little warm when charging, but nothing serious, plug it in and leave it on charge overnight.
Never had any issues

 

Where do you keep granny cable? Do you keep in plugged in when you drive off and then just come back and blug back in? is granny cable waterproof? Can you just leave it outside on the floor or hang it somewhere; or I need a waterproof granny cable storage?

 

Where do you keep granny cable? Do you keep in plugged in when you drive off........ or I need a waterproof granny cable storage?

Bought a genuine Ford bag from the Ford online shop for £18.50 and just keep it in the boot - it velcros to the inside wheelarch nicely

 

I bought 16A 3pin charger from Aliexpress for like 100£ ... You can switch 8-10-13-16A if you need to.. Always charge at 16A, 3hrs and a few minutes charging, no any heat from charger.. Charger shows like 10,6kWh, smart plug energy meter shows 10,7kWh for full charge.

 

why you buy it from aliexpress? Didn't you get one cable delivered with the car?

 

I bought a meter BOC to keep extension lead and charging cable in, I had 7kw charger fitted as part of Ford goodwill gesture as I see it as a good investment for the house. Always good to have a choice!

 

Meter box!

 

It is forbidden to have 16A fused plug with proper (3x2,5mm2) cable?

 

Yes, there are no domestic sockets rated above 13A. Unlike Europe we have ring mains as well.

Anything above 13A requires a dedicated spur and hard wired connection, such as a cooker.

 

Anyway, 13A is still noticeable faster than 10A Ford charger.

 

Running a UK socket at the full 13A for long periods is not advisable. Most UK appliances max out at 3kW (12.5A). So if you can only choose 10A/13A on the device then the 13A will probably result in excess heat and fuse failure over time. It is no accident that Ford chose 10A for a 3 pin socket.

 

If you have insufficient wires for your 13A socket you should not have it rated as 13A as it is dangerous!

It is everyones choice how his EV will be charged.. I just wanted to mention there is also option to use non-Ford charger... It is bit mystery for me why you can have dedicated wires for wall box but not for 3pin charger (which costs much more less).. There is more kind of 3pin sockets and your electrician should now which one to choose.. But if it is forbidden in UK to use anything higher than 10A (except wallbox) then yes you have no other choice then pricey wallbox or slow Ford plug charge with less charging efficiency.

 

Maybe you should have a read of UK electrical regs to answer your questions. You are also obviously not familiar with fused plugs which are not used in Europe

 

And wall box dont require dedicated spur, right? Then there is no point for any other arguing ... And yes, you noticed very well... charger i showed is EU plug and will not fit 3pin CEE socket.

If you check on internet, you can find .

 

Keep it civil guys 👍

 

I seen two posts in this thread from two different members both saying there's no point in arguing. Couldn't agree more.....

 

Regarding the Ford granny charger, if its left switched on but not connected to the car, will it be using any power? or best switch it off altogether? Thanks.

 

It uses minimal power like this

 

Regarding the Ford granny charger, if its left switched on but not connected to the car, will it be using any power? or best switch it off altogether? Thanks.

it uses 2w if no charging. Assume £0.01 per day or £3.5 per year

 

Inside garage, where the granny cable lives, unless:-
I drive 50 miles to my parents and re-charge there but the Juga's parked outside their garage (it's full of 90 years worth of "stuff").
Most of my PHEV driving was always going to be under 30 mile journeys, so never considered anything other than the Granny cable.
I've got a 2.5L combustion engine for anything over that.
Otherwise I would've opted for another Jag' XF v6, or a full EV (which I chickened out of this time around, due insufficient knowledge/time/experience).

 

Going to put my query in here, rather than start a new discussion: could I get some advice on best charging cable to use for my Kuga, arriving in next few days. I've got a Pod Point wall charger, which came with the house we've just moved into. Looking for safety, longevity and efficiency (all at best possible price, of course!). Thanks.

 

If you intend to use the podpoint and it isn't tethered then you'll need type 2 cable. Plenty available from lots of different suppliers.