Hey Bazzer09
From what I remeber you have to define a "Home" position initially.

Cheers, Paul

 

Ooh,I was just going to say, that only a short time ago, someone else gave answer to a very similar question.
@Paden was that you?

 

Ooh,I was just going to say, that only a short time ago, someone else gave answer to a very similar question.
@Paden was that you?

Not me Psshaw

 

I’ll have a gander then, see if I can find it. I now it was something that needed a check mark on the app to enable it.
Thanks anyway👍

 

@Bazzer09

Have a read of this…it may help out.

Kuga PHEV Departure times

Does anyone use this option? If so what settings are you using and how are you finding it? Im finding it's completely arbitrary when it chooses to work if at all. I have set charge times between midnight and 5am and a departure time of 5am (my assumption is the setting would make sure the car...

www.kugaownersclub.co.uk

 

I have similar issue. For my home location, I do have setting to charge to 90% only. It worked the first time, but doesnt work anymore.

 

I have exactly the same problem. The ‘home’ location is correctly set, and I’ve scheduled the car to charge during my cheap electricity hours overnight. However, as soon as I save and confirm the settings I get a screen saying ‘home’ and ‘car will charge when plugged in’, and this is exactly what happens. Pressing the ‘clock’ button has no effect, the car continues to charge at any time. If I go back to the scheduled charge screen, everything is entered correctly. Has anyone got any ideas for a possible solution. (I’m currently using an electronic timer between the charging unit and the mains but this is not ideal). Many thanks.

 

(Vehicle is a Kuga st line x first edition)

 

I have the same problem too, I don't think for now we can rely on the schedules from the car or the app. Been rarely reliable, there were even days after I woke up in the morning to find that it did not start charging as per the early morning schedule set, hence no charge but we have then to use fuel if can't wait for it to then charge.

Currently I have the car set to charge when plugged in as I don't use the schedule from the car/app, I charge via another EV charger (not Ford Wallbox or 3pin charger) but I have the schedule set on the EV charger app, so that works fine as per the schedule of the EV charger (cheap night tariffs). However as soon as i plug the car, a few minutes later I get notification from the Ford app stating that charge did not begin as per schedule. But there is no schedule set in the Ford app or car.

I reported this to FordPass support and as expected they came back to me stating that the FordPass app is not compatible with 3rd party charger, only compatible with Ford Connected Wallbox, that's the reason it throws this notification, to what extent to believe this is true, I don't think so.

So it looks from the point of view of the app, that charge when plugged in is also a schedule, if you plug it in and depending on the power states of the charger (such as a wallbox charger) it sees a plug is connected but cannot get power from it to charge (as the charger has its own schedule), then it treats this as charge did not begin as scheduled (that is when plugged).

 

Odd as our car works perfectly. The schedule was set in the car (not the app) and the only time it hasn't worked is when the car was confused about where it was, it thought it was in the field opposite! Once the GPS had woken up it was fine again.

You do have to set the schedule for weekday and weekend in the car, and save both. It can only be set when you are at the location as far as I can tell.

 

I picked up the Phev Kuga on Monday and i am just getting to grips with the charging - i have a smart charger that makes the best use of the low cost electric off peak - its basically a smart switch that turns on at 00:30 and of again at 04:30 and so far every morning the car is fully chargedso its switching itself on and off and the right times. The ford app says that the "The Scheduled Charge Didn't not Begin" which seems to be the time i plugged the cable in the night before, As far as i know i dont have a schedule set in the Ford App or Car - has anyone else had/have this issue and how did you resolve it

 

Yes, I have the same exact problem. The issue is with Ford Pass app, the moment (or few minutes later) you plug in the charger, if there are no schedules set, it thinks it needs to start charging, even if set to charge when plugged in. But as the charger is timed separately (not from the Ford Pass app or car), the car does not get power unless it is within the set time from your smart switch, hence it throws this notification. Which basically in other words it means car detects the plug but does not get power, app notified you of this.

FordPass support confirmed this to me and said there are no planned fix for this, as the app is designed to work with the Ford Connected Wallbox, I don't have the Ford EV charger, so I cannot confirm if this works as expected with their charger

 

 

Hi....Not sure whether this is too late but I've just had the same problem myself. The issue is to do with the number of hours you have allocated in your preset time and the amount of time the car calculates it will need to charge the battery to you prescribed limit. eg my battery is nearly flat i have 5% I also have Octopus go which gives me cheap charging between 0030 and 0430 however the charging software will only let me set 1am to 4am. Now heres the rub, if you set the software to charge your battery to 100% the software knows it cannot do it in the time I have prescibed if the battery is only 5% charged so it starts charging straight away if I reduce my prescibed charge to 50% the software knows it can complete this and the charging starts at my prescibed time. If I increase this to 60% again the charging will start immediately because it cannot complete this in my 3hr window. I must admit I see this as a bit of a failing and I might ask Ford for an explanation as to why should it not just charge within my window regardless of what it can complete in the time. Hope this is some help to people

 

I have Octopus Go and have set the schedule to start at 1:00 am and it charges until 100% even if it overruns the cheap rate period. I have the charge time set from 1:00 am to 8:00 am Even though the cheap rate tariff ends at 4:30 am. If I want to charge outside the cheap rate period I press the timer button after plugging in. To change it to only charge at the preferred time just press the timer button again.

 

Glad I bought a hypervolt and let that do the scheduling.

 

Hi ....Thats interesting I might try that.......I only had my preset time set to between 1:00am and 4:00am and if the battery was flat it would start charging straight away, by reducing to 50% charge it would start according to the preset. I will try the 1:00am to 8:00am preset and see what happens, thank you

 

Out of interest what is the cost difference per hour between the cheap rate period and the standard rate.

 

On my tariff it’s 5p/KWh on cheap rate and 13.7p on standard, so almost 9p

 

hi ......I worked it out based on my Octopus go account as approx 3p per mile cheap rate and 12p per mile normal

 

Meant to add the 12p per mile was based on the variable Octopus rate on the Octopus go rate the peak charge rise to about 15p per mile

 

If it’s OctopusGo then 37.5p kw/h peak, 7.5 off. That’s what I’ve renewed at. Was 15p and 5p 😞

 

Ouch

 

Now may be a good time to buy shares in energy companies.

 

Oh I should add, I’m on Octopus Go Faster, so 4 hours from 21:30, and got my peak rate slightly wrong…it’s 35.05p.

 

Thanks for the info @ProximusAl and @Clarky94 . I can see now why you guys are wanting to make sure you get them charged within the cheap rate period and also confirms if I bought a PHEV then I would need to switch energy supplier which isn't an option at present.

The problem is though as the more people move over to PHEV and electric the demand for cheap rate electric will be more and will force the price up no doubt. Still can't see how it's going to work but I doubt I will be driving much after 2035 and no doubt a tank of fuel will cost more than the state pension amount.

 

At last I found a forum of people with exactly the same problem as I've had for several months! The only value I can add to the discussion is that I finally decided to let my electricity provider control the charging, and asked ford customer service how to stop Ford controlling it. They suggested deleting the charge location ( my home ), which I did. It worked for one night charge, then when I checked Fordpass it had recreated my home location! Has anyone successfully stopped Fordpass controlling charging?

 

I control schedule with a smart plug. It works really well - no issues at all

 

I would suggest to use smart plug as simplest solution as well... Athom Tasmota smart plug for example. With HomeAssistant, Fordpass API and tariff sensor combo is easy to setup automation like "charge up to 90% during low tariff". If you use some Aliexpress 16A 3pin charger and put it to box with smart plug, you have a nice wallbox then, with kWh consuption overview.

 

@jiri dude, you are taking it to an extreme lol. Got some data to share?

 

Which smart plugs are you guys using.

 

I use tapo but there are plenty smart plugs out there.

 

How many amps it takes? It depends on charger you use... Kuga can take 1 phase 16A max.. So with 16A charger and 230V it takes 3680W. Ford charger is usually 10A only.

To have smart plug for like 5$ is not any extreme.. ... If someone has homeaassitant as hobby it provides just extra opportunities for free.. But it is not necessary to use it.. Any cloud based smart plug is enough... If you already use any Tuya or Ewelink devices just choose same platform.

 

How many amps it takes? It depends on charger you use... Kuga can take 1 phase 16A max.. So with 16A charger and 230V it takes 3680W. Ford charger is usually 10A only.

To have smart plug for like 5$ is not any extreme.. ... If someone has homeaassitant as hobby it provides just extra opportunities for free.. But it is not necessary to use it.. Any cloud based smart plug is enough... If you already use any Tuya or Ewelink devices just choose same platform.

In the UK there are two options, 3 pin charger at 10A and 7kW dedicated charger at 16A (limited by car)