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I know a fair few on here have the Petrol Ecoboost Kugas.

Just looking for something unrelated but noticed these all run "wet belt" cambelts?.

If so I'd be keeping a very close eye on cambelt intervals and may be worth doing replacement well before due date.

There's been a lot of discussion on the wet belts and many have done chain conversions on earlier Focus's etc.

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I'm very pleased my 2.0 litre Ecoboost has a timing chain.
 

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I would add to this to make sure the correct specification of oil is used during any changes.

My only experience with the Ecoboost engine is on the 1 litre models and on those it is important the correct oil is used. The wrong oil in those can lead to the belt deteriorating leading to premature failure of the belt or bits of the belt clogging up the oil pump resulting in lost oil pressure.

As these seem to run a wet belt too, I would guess similar applies so worth mentioning I think.
 

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I would add to this to make sure the correct specification of oil is used during any changes.

My only experience with the Ecoboost engine is on the 1 litre models and on those it is important the correct oil is used. The wrong oil in those can lead to the belt deteriorating leading to premature failure of the belt or bits of the belt clogging up the oil pump resulting in lost oil pressure.

As these seem to run a wet belt too, I would guess similar applies so worth mentioning I think.
An awful lot of Ford Transits are on a recall at the moment because of wet timing belts. If the oil is not changed at the correct time with the correct grade of oil it causes major problems.
 

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I can't say I'm surprised!

With my old Focus, it was always serviced by a ford dealer prior to my ownership and I did the same. The only time it wasn't was when it was serviced by the garage I purchased it from so no idea what oil they used.

I believe it may be what led to my oil pump looking like this. I removed the sump and this is my oil pump. What was clogging it up felt a mixture of just sludge but also a bit rubbery too, so could well have been the belt.

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I would add to this to make sure the correct specification of oil is used during any changes.

My only experience with the Ecoboost engine is on the 1 litre models and on those it is important the correct oil is used. The wrong oil in those can lead to the belt deteriorating leading to premature failure of the belt or bits of the belt clogging up the oil pump resulting in lost oil pressure.

As these seem to run a wet belt too, I would guess similar applies so worth mentioning I think.
That's Fords favourite "get out of warrany free" card, personally I think it's just another terrible design idea gone wrong but they are stuck with it..

Wonder if any Mk3's run a wet belt?.
 

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I'm very pleased my 2.0 litre Ecoboost has a timing chain.
I wouldn't have bought mine if it used a belt. They can cost a fortune to replace when that time arrives.
 

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That's Fords favourite "get out of warrany free" card, personally I think it's just another terrible design idea gone wrong but they are stuck with it..

Wonder if any Mk3's run a wet belt?.
I'm not sure it is a terrible design idea gone wrong. It is effectively designed to last the lifetime of the engine, which it will do in most cases if the correct oil is used. Putting the wrong oil in and causing a problem is just as stupid as putting the wrong oil in any engine. Once it reaches back street bodgers the car is on borrowed time anyway.
 

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It has the same service interval as the dry belts iirc, not lifetime by any means.

Googling "Ford wet belt" brings up a lot of interesting reading, most of it not very complimentary..
 

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Yep, in the case of my focus, it's 10 years or 150k mileage interval. And it's something like a 12 or 16 hour book time to complete along with specialist tools required to do.
 

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Yep, in the case of my focus, it's 10 years or 150k mileage interval. And it's something like a 12 or 16 hour book time to complete along with specialist tools required to do.
But who is ever going to do that / spend that money on a 10 year old 150k mile car? It will cost as much as the car is worth. I suspect most cars at that age will just continue until they break.
 

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It's 10 years or 125,000 miles on the 1.5 Kuga, pretty poor if as you say people will just run them until they fail (not to mention dangerous).
 
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