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i purchased my kuga in 2013 in 2015 my aircon gas was empty took it back to arnold clarke in penrith they said they had fixed it , 11 months later empty again took it back they said they had fixed it , 11 months later empty again i said are you not checking for a leak they had a look and said hole in condenser and they want £440 to fix it i have argued wit them and said it must of had a leak at the first time when it was under warranty but they said no it has just appeared and i have to pay is this right
 

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If there was a hole in it when they refilled it originally, it would more than likely not have worked (or for long) when you picked it up. Over winter with little or no use the compressor seals may stick so that when you use it the seals rip and the gas escapes, but will reseal for when it is filled up again.
 

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Equally, if there was just a pinhole the lubricant injected as part of the regas may have temporarily sealed it.

Difficult to prove either way I'm afraid.
 

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Wouldnt accept their quote without getting other estimates, plenty of businesses do air con regas and repairs
 

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Totally agree.

Why pay main dealer rates when an aircon specialist who does and only this all day and every day would probably be far cheaper.
 

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Yes I will do I was just trying to get it done under warranty as I thought they should of sorted it the first time
 

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Just one of those things Karen and unlucky. I had one changed under warranty on my Mk2 Mondeo, and that was due to corrosion in its third year too.

As said above, Air con specialist are capable and available.
 

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yes thankyou i have a good mechanic who will do it just a bit annoying it wasnt fixed the first time and the hottest summer and no aircon as well could it get any worse lol
 

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We guess you used it before the hot spell though.


Worth noting to use the aircon during winter too at least once a month, it helps stop the seals on the compressor sticking and thus ripping open allowing the refrigerant to escape. Ford used to mention using aircon in winter though without giving a reason in the handbook. Some days it wont work because outside temperature is low at 4 degrees of course.
 

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After a similar issue with my Kuga and lengthy discusssion with the Service manager at my loacl Ford dealer (who is excellant!!) I make the following comments...The condensor leak may be a faulty seal which can allow gas to escape but then re-seals itself. Not known (by my dealer) on Kugas but has been noted on other Ford models.
The air-con compressor is turning as long as the engine is running. The air-con is switched on/off bu controlling a pressure control valve on the compressor discharge (unlike earlier systems where the compressor was connected to the engine driven pulley by an electric magnetic clutch).
With the new 'environmental' standards the old refrigerant gas (R12) has been banned and (apparently) the replacement is more difficult to keep in a system hence a re-gas every few years may become the 'norm'.
I'll let you know more later as mine is booked in on Friday!!!

2014 Tit X 163bhp (chipped to 190)
 

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Seals 're-sealing' is commonplace hence the need to keep AC on periodically even in the depth of winter as this circulates the lubricant which is 'injected' alongside the refrigerant.

HF-(R)1234y is a volatile refrigerant with a far smaller particulate size than R12 hence its propensity to leak far more easily.

However, the good news is that it, unlike R12, can be fully recovered and recycled meaning that a 'regas' is now more likely to require far less refrigerant to top up the system.
 

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Car went in for testing... Was down on gas by about 50% (two years after the last re-gas) but no signs of any leaking from the 'normal' selected points.
System works well now and correctly controls set temperature so we'll see how long that lasts.....
 
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