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I think speed and the extra power you get with a remap is great if you really think you need it, but I'm a little bit longer in the tooth and go for the leisurely drive now , and just arrive a little later and less stressed.
Lol,long in the tooth. I'm 62 and still enjoy driving not being THAT Sunday driver
 

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Don't get me wrong mate, I'm 67 and still like to drive at a reasonable speed, but I don't get stressed anymore about people going past me at warp factor speed. 😁
 

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I don't care if anyone passes me but what I don't like is people who won't wait. Interesting topic at present are motorways, dual carriageways which have a lane shut ahead. I read the signs and at 800 yards is a point where you should be starting to pull in but according to the latest guidelines, we now have this word called "merge" which means it is perfectly ok for someone to drive right to the end and then pull in at the last minute. Whoever came up with this idea obviously drives a German car or a large 4 X 4. I am being the truck drivers who stop the guys trying to beat the queue.
 

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Yes i have the Bluefin. On my 2nd Bluefin now having previously had one on my 2.2 TDCi S-Max. Briliiant and highly recommended. It actaully makes you drive slower because of the extra torque it gives you from 1000rpm on the diesel and 1500 on the petrol. I change gear now around 2000rpm (2500rpm max) as no need to go much higher as it's rapid enough TBH. Better mpg too - my petrol never goes lower than 30mpg around town stop and start so the diesel will be even more. Highly recommended. I remap all my cars since my Focus ST 2.5 in 2006 - Dreanscience remap 270bhp!
The Bluefin though enables you to return to standard at Service / MOT time though my S-Max easily passed it with the Bluefin on and also a anti-theft option by immobilising the car at the ECU level.
 
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Hello,

just my opinion, i think the best engine tunne up if u want its the box chip-tunning as it is letting u to handle the upgrade without touching the original ECU made by Ford!! and also u can uplug the chip if u dont like the outcome!
 

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I had mines remapped by Collins (stage1).

The car went from 200bhp (standard) to 270bhp. made an enormous difference to the cars driving and overtaking abilities.
 

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I'd question your brakes being up to the job too - probably will be, but maybe worth popping the question to the garage as that's a considerable increase.

I'd check with your insurers, regarding the modification too.

Saying that, if you do get it done, let us know the result :p
 

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I had mines remapped by Collins (stage1).

The car went from 200bhp (standard) to 270bhp. made an enormous difference to the cars driving and overtaking abilities.
I was considering getting a MK1 Kuga with the 2.5T in order to remap it, but ended up getting the CX7 with the 2.3T, which was faster than the Kuga in stock form and way faster after being remapped (from 260 to close to 320).

However, like DogDeluxe mentioned, I also upgraded the brakes to EBC everything and all around, since the CX7 became rather fast and desperately needed some serious stopping powahhh :D
 

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I was considering getting a MK1 Kuga with the 2.5T in order to remap it, but ended up getting the CX7 with the 2.3T, which was faster than the Kuga in stock form and way faster after being remapped (from 260 to close to 320).

However, like DogDeluxe mentioned, I also upgraded the brakes to EBC everything and all around, since the CX7 became rather fast and desperately needed some serious stopping powahhh :D
I REALLY liked the CX7 myself....I still like the 3 MPS too!
The choice between the Kuga and the Mazda boiled down (for me) to the perveance of both parts + owner experience due to the commonality of the focus St.. LOTS of owners out there to offer guidance etc.
I've had the car 2.5years now .... its been really great, maybe time for a change!
 

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I’d be more worried about re mapping the Volvo 2.5t found in the Kuga, as they were down tuned to 200bhp, as opposed to its usual 225bhp guise found in the focus, the reason being, the transmission and drive train aren’t very strong, that is why it was down tuned from the factory.
 

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Anyone had a remap? Who with and what was the result?
I mapped my 2014 2.0l diesel AWD using a bluefin, it went from 150bhp to 183bhp, I can’t remember what the torque increase was, I think it was about an extra 80nm. The car is more driveable, it pulls much smoother, you can also drive in a higher gear so if you don’t nail it all the time then you should get better mpg, for the first couple of weeks mine went from 40mpg to 47mpg doing a mixture of long and short runs, it has now settled at 43mpg.
I’d recommend doing it, I was a little skeptical at first but now I’d remap every car, just don’t go mad cause you’ll wreck your transmission in the long run if you do.
Using the bluefin was straightforward and doesn’t take long.
 

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Yeah did mine myself as that’s what we do at work. That and custom exhausts etc made a huge difference turned out mine was already remapped but was very poor and felt standard. But now done properly goes well and a good mpg gain to
 

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Can someone answer my question. People are saying "you should think about up-grading your brakes" if you are thinking of doing a power up-grade. If your car has 100hp or 200hp, your car is still the same car, weight etc etc. So, will it take longer to stop more hp, I don't think so.
Unless people are thinking of if they are going abroad to Germany.
 

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Can someone answer my question. People are saying "you should think about up-grading your brakes" if you are thinking of doing a power up-grade. If your car has 100hp or 200hp, your car is still the same car, weight etc etc. So, will it take longer to stop more hp, I don't think so.
Unless people are thinking of if they are going abroad to Germany.
my personal experience (mine only ) regardless of power you still react the same at the same speed, horsepower verses reaction dont matter, its the speed traveling and reaction to whats happening that makes you brake etc in time, just cause you got extra 100horses dont make the car any differant, you dont go alter your perception of whats ahead of you regardless, its all about what YOU see in front of you when driving.
 

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There is the point of being able to accelerate quicker puts you slightly further forward than you would be with less power so if you needed to stop whilst accelerating hard you would need better brakes to stop within the same distance as your are going faster.

For example if with 100bhp you travelled from point A to point B in 10 seconds with a terminal speed of 80mph
Compared with 200bhp travelling from point A to point B in 8 seconds with a terminal speed of 100mph

Then at point B the car with 200bhp and the same weight would need longer to stop as it's going faster.

Splitting hairs I know and only posted for fun. Agreed at constant speed with different power outputs there is no need for brake upgrade.
 

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Can someone answer my question. People are saying "you should think about up-grading your brakes" if you are thinking of doing a power up-grade. If your car has 100hp or 200hp, your car is still the same car, weight etc etc. So, will it take longer to stop more hp, I don't think so.
Momentum and rate of acceleration probably has something to do with it. Having done an engine conversion on a previous vehicle- that more than doubled the HP- I can definitely say you do need to upgrade the brakes. The rate of acceleration is far greater, which (I guess) correlates into the brakes needing to dissipate more heat in order to slow the vehicle.

Back to your Kuga. I'm fairly sure the brakes are the same across all models (I'll check) and that includes the version sold in Australia with the 2.0l EcoBoost petrol engine with 178kW and 345Nm. Ford Kuga Trend (AWD) 2016 Price & Specs | CarsGuide . So your brakes with a remapped 1.5l EcoBoost should be fine.
 

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Can someone answer my question. People are saying "you should think about up-grading your brakes" if you are thinking of doing a power up-grade. If your car has 100hp or 200hp, your car is still the same car, weight etc etc. So, will it take longer to stop more hp, I don't think so.
Unless people are thinking of if they are going abroad to Germany.
It's actually basic physics. Kinetic energy, friction and heat transfer is all you need to explain why higher power output necessitates better/bigger brakes. Higher power output means faster and higher kinetic energy fluctuations, which in turn require better stopping power, both for the sheer stopping power (same mass but higher velocity) AND the need to dissipate higher temperatures due to friction.
 

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Sorry didn't mean to poke the hornets nest. And yes totally agree, zero to 70 will be quicker and need better braking when you get to 70 if then you decide to stop, say on a drag strip. But cruising along at 70 then breaking!!!!
 
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