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    Posted: 13 Mar 2010 at 9:54pm
The highs and lows of Kuga ownership?

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Seeing and driving the beautiful Kuga in my local dealership.
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Thinking I couldn't afford one (credit crunch an' all that)
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Getting a great deal on a pre-registered black AWD titanium (thanks Mark Smile)
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Waiting for delivery, and waiting and waiting (I swear I could have walked to Belgium and pushed it to the UK quicker than it took.
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The car started Juddering violently while driving, initially at around 50, but after a few mile even when dropping down to 15mph. The juddering feels as if a wheel is about to fall off. I returned it nervously to the dealer barely 15 hours after driving it away. Mechanics (x3) drove it checked it confirmed the really violent judder, and could not find the cause, so I am without it after driving about 25 miles. (Those were the day - me and my Kuga I remember them so well.Cry

I now have to sit and wait all weekend until they can get a Ford Supermechanic (or something) to come and have a look next week. Dealership have been very courteous, helpful and apologetic, but I am very frustratedAngry. Anyone have any ideas ? All the common things have been checked and excluded (lose wheelnuts, deflated or deformed tyre/wheel, malfunctioning brakes and suspension)

My KUGA is like a beautiful woman - I can forgive her a few indiscretions because she looks so damn fine.


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That's real a shame. It spoils what should have been a good day. You sound pretty philosophical about it, I hope it's something that will be sorted very soon. 
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Two much or not enough throttle on a cold engine??
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I suppose I am philosophical about it. Over the years I have learned to not allow stress into my life, especially self inflicted stress. So I can only wait for the professionals to fit and fix the fault. I posted here to share the problem, and to see if any forum members has experienced anything similar, and hopefully post a solution so that if anyone else has the problem they know what it is.
I don't think it could be a throttle problem moondust. It was even happening when coasting in neutral. As I say all 3 experienced mechanics drove it and were convinced, as was I, that it must be something easy to spot, as the judder was so pronounced it felt like some aspect of the wheel, or its linkage was about to come loose. 
I will post back here when a diagnosis and solution is provided - hopefully on Monday.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote moondust Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2010 at 12:42am
Andy,
         Good luck on Monday, if the dealership fail to rectify the fault on three visits i believe you can request a replacement (fit for purpose etc) vehicle. Keep a log of dates! and remedial actions and checks, and signatures on a jobcard type document. If the problem is solved you may feel more at ease if the wheel alignment is re-checked for personal assurance. Coasting in neutral i wonder if the dual mass flywheel is the culprit or a drivshaft perhaps shots in the dark im afraid. Its their problem to solve make sure you get a courtesy car at their expense.
 
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Thanks Rob,

Must admit the dealer have been suitably chaste, and quite embarrassed about the whole situation. They have given me a nice focus to drive around in at their expense (they even gave me a full tank). I just wonder what my rights are if they cant find the cause - I assume I can demand a new replacement under the sale of goods act.

I will keep the forum updated when I know more.

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So I have had a call from the dealer and the Supermechanic has diagnosed a damaged prop shaft, being a complete mechanical eejit, I could only think of a prop shaft on a propellerWacko
I asked the dealer for an explaination of what damage was done, and as I know I have not done it, how it could have been done, but all he could tell me was it needed a new one and it should be fitted by this time tomorrow. So I should have Kugie back by tomorrowThumbs Up
So if anyone else gets a really nasty judder think prop shaft - whatever one of those is.

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Andy,
 
Glad to hear they have got to the bottom of the problem and it would interesting to find out how it got damaged !!
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DOCKUGA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 2010 at 1:38am
Nick
Certainly would. The phone call was from the salesman, who clearly new less than me about a prop shaft, and could only tell me it was "faulty". I was just pleased to know that they could explain the cause and repair it fairly rapidly (although I won't count my chickens as they have to order a new prop shaft and they were 3 weeks late in getting my car to me).
I plan to try to speak with the mechanic to see if he can provide some answers.
I especially want to know if any further damage could have been done by driving around with a "faulty" prop shaft.

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Be wary of damage to the rear diff.
 
If the propshaft was vibrating badly, theres a chance it could unseat the coupling where it enters the diff, or the bearing where it leaves the gearbox.
 
Although on thinking about it, the universal joint should absorb any vibrations to a degree....at the diff end.
 
Very basically = (Im not a mechanic!!)
 
The propshaft leaves the gearbox and is literally a long metal pole which runs under the centre of the car to the rear end, where it enters a differential box and this changes the rotation of the shaft through 90 degrees in order to drive the rear wheels.
Think of it as a driveshaft for the rear wheels.
 
If it was me, Id be asking questions about the bearings/seals at either end of the shaft on the diff/gearbox. If the vibration was excessive, these seals/bearings may have worn unevenly very slightly leading to potential problems longer term.
 
AndyWink
 


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